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Episode 11: If You Have to Ask if It’s a Cult- It Probs is, and We Love a Good Missing Painting


TW: animal abuse, mentions of multiple types of abuse, suicide.


Today’s episode is a very informative look into cults, and stolen paintings. Caroline covers the developing story of The Garden, the differences between communes, religions and cults, as well as her own opinion. There is the understanding that this commune could be what they claim to be, however there are certain things that are concerning to some people. Caroline and Claire implore viewers to do their own research. This is a heavy topic, and both ladies understand how verified cults have mournfully impacted an innumerable amount of people all over the world.


Claire takes us on a somewhat lighter journey of Two Laughing Boys with a Mug of Beer a Painting by Frans Hals. This story includes 3 misfortunes, 2 Boys, and 1 solid mug of beer. Honestly, so thankful for Claire, and her constant rays of sunshine.


Note from Caroline: It is important, especially for this episode, that we explain to you some of our sources in the description. I was able to gain a lot of information about the background on cults from some good goog searches. For the purposes of the commune described in this episode, I used information from these tiktok accounts listed below. I do not claim to be the first person to cover this story. These people did the work, as well as a few others. There are already some articles written by insider.com etc. I hope that my story today provides an in-depth timeline, information on cults, and the ability for viewers to form their own opinions, and do their own research.


Thomaseddisonhatepage - Their name is Sumner, and they are lovely. They continue to cover the story as it progresses.


Cultmaker- They also provide information on the commune, and provide updates on what is happening. They also make multiple tik toks informing viewers on the Rainbow Family, give information on what cults are, as well as information on Sundown Towns.


BookofEdith- same as the our other friends. They provide information on the commune, given updates, do their research, and also called immigration.


Places to call if you’re worried about your safety, or someone you love.

Domestic Violence Support: https://www.thehotline.org/​ - you can chat with someone online or call at: 1.800.799.SAFE

Family Violence Prevention Center 1-800-313-1310

National Sexual Assault Hotline 1-800-656-HOPE (4673) Stop it Now! 1-888-PREVENT National Runaway Safeline 1-800-RUNAWAY (786-2929)

Suicide Hotline 1-800-SUICIDE (784-2433) or 1-800-273-TALK (8255)

RAINN 1-800-656-HOPE (4673) For a more complete list of helplines go to: https://www.pleaselive.org/hotlines/


Stay safe, be good, and wear a mask.


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